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Written by Peter Koch   
Wednesday, 10 October 2007

As happy as I have been using mambo and joomla for several sites, I also feel uncomfortable about the current development of the projects. I'm not sure if I am the only one who is missing real progress, but to me it seems the real problems like a reasonable user rights handling, accessibility, friendly urls, versioning etc. are only addressed half-hearted if at all.

So while I was preparing a new site it was also time to sneak around and see what else alternatives are out there beside the usual suspects such as drupal, typo3 etc. which all have theire pros and cons when it comes to usability or technical details. Well I didn't expect to find the golden bullet anyway, just wanted to confirm I'm still using the best compromise available when going with mambo or joomla.

But to my surprise I stumbled over a new open source cms which has all I ever dreamed of as a mambo/joomla user, right out of the box. It has an amazing clean organized backend which you can teach any customer in one hour. An excellent and fine granulated acl letting no wishes open. Friendly urls are created by default. Accessibility right out of the box for both, front- and backend. Versioning with undo to any previous state. Live update so upgrading is a one-click job. Best of all for me as a developer: an amazing good and professional codebase which lets most other cms look tinkered. It's LGPL and so encourages commercial applications instead of alienating them.

That said, it is not the golden bullet (yet) but at least the silver one, with a most promising future. I'll definitively go to built my next site with it to ge more experience. Oh I nearly forgot to tell you well here is a link to the cms I am talking about.

Don't get me wrong, joomla and mambo are still among the best open source cms, especially because of the immense selection of add-ons. And I will stay committed to my existing projects, even if my favorite cms might be changing.

Comments

gringo6969
2007-10-21 19:01:17
Peter, great to see alternatives. Wonder how they could jump from GPL to LGPL, since Joomla seems not to be able to do this.  
Anyway worth looking into these alternatives
tj.baker
2007-10-29 04:07:16
Thanks for the look at another CMS -- it's nice to see alternatives, especially if they are viable! :) 
 
As for the question of going from GPL to LGPL - if the creator of the CMS is the only one who's put any code in it, then he can release future releases under any license he wants, no? Otherwise, I still think it could be done so long as all contributors of code agree to the license change.... 
In addition, I think it is also possible to release with multiple licenses.
facile
2007-10-29 09:12:18
You are right tj, the copyright owners (usa) or the creator(s) (rest of the world) can license under whatever and as many licenses he/they want. In case of Joomla as well as Mambo however too many people have allready contributed to the code, and each of them would need to agree to license changes which is nearly impossible. Missing a single one would put up risk to be sued one day, so both Joomla and Mambo are basicly locked-in to the GPL V2.
buddyq
2007-11-05 23:52:52
If interested, i've long been annoyed with these problems as well. I found one that you might like to check out as well that has all the same features you mentioned. Built in versioning, friendly urls, completely valid, xhtml/css including the ouput (problem with Joomla). They also have very nice components that are built for it such as a forum module, e-commerce, blog, mashup flickr/gallery, Gallery 0.2.1, Maps (GooglePowered). Extendable, the whole gamut of stuff. Check it out at SilverStripe.com
seawalker
2007-11-16 17:43:03
latristesse
2007-11-19 01:12:22
What about the winner of Packt publishing award - modx? How would anyone compare Joomla 1.5, modx, and typolite? I was looking around the back-ends of the latter two and it would be definitely be a change from Joomla! (not as pretty but possible better organized). Also, plug-in availability of the two new "promising" cms's might be an issue as well as overall support.
romanus
2008-01-07 15:26:30
what is the name of this amazing new cms?
vachatterus
2008-01-21 17:56:57
What is the road map for facile forms?
flys
2008-06-05 22:03:43
Hi admins, 
the registration for the FORUM IS LOCKED ?!?
Boszkie
2008-06-09 12:20:46
Hi! 
 
No the place for this, but I've kinda run out of options...  
 
1. Can't register for the forum!! The submit button is dead. 
 
2. Same thing happens when I try to use the form manager int he backend to add a static html element - the submit button is dead! It works with other elements though. 
 
Feedback welcome!
barajda_com
2008-07-23 18:12:59
Tanks 
www.barajda.comSadece Gercekler - Realy Only

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